Bren Smith: Eat Like A Fish



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Happy New Year! Enjoy our first episode of the next decade with ocean farmer and longtime YSFP friend, Bren Smith. We feature his new book, Eat Like A Fish: My Life as a Fisherman Turned Restorative Ocean Farmer.

What does it take to build an economy for ocean farming? Training and empowering a new generation of growers, from veterans to indigenous communities. Developing recipes for sea-grown vegetables (barbecue kelp is delicious!). Creating jobs beyond growing, but in processing, research, and other new products, like seaweed-based bioplastics. Collaborating with investors to build better models for social impact.

These projects, and many more, have been part of Bren’s journey in advocating for ocean farming worldwide. Eat Like A Fish moves beyond his moving personal story and the arcs of global seaweed history and even climate change. It tells the journey of resilience: how we all work together to help people and planet thrive.

about us:

website: https://www.sustainablefood.yale.edu/chewing-the-fat-podcast

facebook: @yalesustainablefoodprogram

twitter: @ysfp

instagram: @ysfp

Chewing the Fat is a podcast from the Yale Sustainable Food Program. We cover people making change in the complex world of food and agriculture. We’re home to brilliant minds: activists, academics, chefs, entrepreneurs, farmers, journalists, policymakers, and scientists (to name a few!). Taken together, their work represents a reimagining of mainstream food movements, challenging myths and tropes as well as inspiring new ways of collaborating.

The podcast is an aural accompaniment to our on-campus Chewing the Fat speaker series, aiming to broaden our content beyond New Haven. Episodes are released every two weeks, featuring interviews, storytelling and more.

On the farm, in the classroom, and around the world, the Yale Sustainable Food Program (YSFP) grows food-literate leaders. We create opportunities for students to experience food, agriculture, and sustainability as integral parts of their education and everyday lives. For more information, please visit sustainablefood.yale.edu.


Stewards of the Land: Greg Gershuny and Anna Giorgi on Sustainable Agriculture



Food security and sustainability are critical components of achieving a peaceful and prosperous society. To achieve true food sustainability and security, the farming community must be more than simply stewards of the land: they must also provide nutrition and consider the climate implications of agriculture. In this episode, Greg Gershuny and Anna Giorgi of the Aspen Institute’s Energy and Environment program discuss how a range of stakeholders — from farmers and ranchers to food companies and consumers — can help achieve the sustainable food systems of the future.


Redefining “Perfect Patient” with Christie Mangir



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Christie Mangir, breast cancer survivor, entrepreneur, and patient advocate, joins Harlan Krumholz to discuss what it means to be the “perfect patient.” Throughout her treatment, Christie felt pressure to do everything the doctor told her. At the same time, through a system of keeping spreadsheets on her symptoms, and a commitment to asking questions and seeking information, Christie became her own perfect patient—one who is engaged, informed, and self-advocating. Since her treatment, Christie has helped other patients dealing with the diagnosis and the decisions, self-care, and many unknowns that it comes with.


Cécile Fromont talks about the circulation of African visual, material, and religious culture in the context of the Slave Trade within the early modern Atlantic world.



Professor Fromont’s writing and teaching focus on the visual, material, and religious culture of Africa and Latin America with a special emphasis on the early modern period and on the Portuguese-speaking Atlantic World. Her first book, The Art of Conversion: Christian Visual Culture in the Kingdom of Kongo won a number of awards. Her essays on African and Latin American art have appeared in Colonial Latin American Review, African Arts, RES: Anthropology and Aesthetics, as well as various edited volumes and exhibition catalogues.


Odd Arne Westad talks about Empire and Righteous Nation: 600 Years of China-Korea Relations.



Professor Westad is a scholar of modern international and global history, with a specialization in the history of eastern Asia since the 18th century. He has published sixteen books, most of which deal with twentieth century Asian and global history.


Ep. 26 – Ian Urbina on the Outlaw Ocean



Over 40 percent of the Earth’s surface is open ocean that is over 200 miles from the nearest shore. These waters exist outside national jurisdiction and are almost entirely beyond the reach of law. Our guest, investigative journalist Ian Urbina, spent five years risking his life in these anarchic places to chronicle the lives he witnessed there. He met shackled slaves on fishing boats, joined high-speed chases by vigilante conservationists, rode out violent storms, and observed near mutinies. He lived on a Thai vessel where Cambodian boys worked 20-hour days processing fish on a slippery deck, shadowed a Tanzanian stowaway who was cast overboard and left to die by an angry crew, and met men who had been drugged, kidnapped and forced to cast nets for catch that would become pet food and livestock feed. We speak with Ian about the sprawling and dystopian world he chronicles in his acclaimed book, The Outlaw Ocean.


Protecting the Rights of Kids: Paul Rink and Doug Kysar on Climate Litigation



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Who is responsible for the global climate crisis? The plaintiffs in the case, Juliana v. U.S., argue that much of the blame lies at the feet of the federal government for enabling fossil fuel companies to alter the planet’s climate. In this episode of the YED podcast, Paul Rink explains that the Juliana case is part of an emerging litigation initiative that asserts a moral obligation on the part of governments to protect the rights of young people and unborn generations to a safe, sustainable climate. Rink is joined by Doug Kysar, a professor at Yale Law School. Together they examine the legal merits of the Juliana case and other youth-based climate litigation and their potential to reframe the narrative of the climate debate.


Elizabeth Hoover: From Garden Warriors to Good Seeds



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Native peoples in the United States are sustaining and revitalizing their unique relationships to food, land, and more broadly, their own cultures. But how have tribes learned from one another and built broader coalitions? Brown University Professor Elizabeth Hoover has traveled across the U.S. to document these efforts, interviewing indigenous growers, seed-keepers, chefs, and many others committed to indigenous food sovereignty. Besides framing their conversations around terms like “seed rematriation” and “indigenizing”, Elizabeth takes us on a journey to understand how Native communities protect their ways of life from colonization, corporate exploitation, and climate change.

Elizabeth Hoover is the Manning Professor of American Studies at Brown University. She studies environmental justice and health in Native American communities, and is the author of several journal articles; her first book was “The River is in Us; Fighting Toxics in a Mohawk Community.” She is also a published photographer, with work appearing in cookbooks like “The Sioux Chef’s Indigenous Kitchen”. To learn more about her work, follow @LizHoover on Instagram and @bluefancyshawl on Twitter. Her website is gardenwarriorsgoodseeds.com.

Indigenous Food Sovereignty in the United States: Cultural Knowledge, Protecting Environments, and Regaining Health” is available today. “From Garden Warriors to Good Seeds: Indigenizing the Local Food Movement” is forthcoming.

about us:

website: https://www.sustainablefood.yale.edu/chewing-the-fat-podcast

facebook: @yalesustainablefoodprogram

twitter: @ysfp

instagram: @ysfp

Chewing the Fat is a podcast from the Yale Sustainable Food Program. We cover people making change in the complex world of food and agriculture. We’re home to brilliant minds: activists, academics, chefs, entrepreneurs, farmers, journalists, policymakers, and scientists (to name a few!). Taken together, their work represents a reimagining of mainstream food movements, challenging myths and tropes as well as inspiring new ways of collaborating.

The podcast is an aural accompaniment to our on-campus Chewing the Fat speaker series, aiming to broaden our content beyond New Haven. Episodes are released every two weeks, featuring interviews, storytelling and more.

On the farm, in the classroom, and around the world, the Yale Sustainable Food Program (YSFP) grows food-literate leaders. We create opportunities for students to experience food, agriculture, and sustainability as integral parts of their education and everyday lives. For more information, please visit sustainablefood.yale.edu.


Emma Zang, assistant professor of sociology, talks about the impact of Chinese divorce reform.



Professor Zang’s research interests lie at the intersection of health and aging, marriage and family, and inequality. She is particularly interested in developing and evaluating methods to model trajectories and life transitions in order to better understand how demographic and socioeconomic inequalities shape the health and well-being of individuals from life course perspectives. Her work has appeared a number of scholarly journals, including the American Journal of Sociology, Demography, and the International Journal of Epidemiology.


Hip-Hop Sustainability: Thomas Easley and Michael Twitty on Diversity in Environmental Communication



If society really wants to tackle environmental challenges it must confront a difficult reality: many of the people most affected by pollution and environmental degradation — including in communities of color across the U.S. — often aren’t included in the conversation. Building bridges that allow everyone a seat at the table will require us to rethink how we communicate about the environment, says Thomas Easley, assistant dean of community and inclusion at the Yale School of Forestry & Environmental Studies. In this episode, Easley speaks with Michael Twitty, a student retention specialist at the New Haven Adult & Continuing Education Center. Together, they are trying to build such a bridge by bringing together students from each of their schools to examine the idea of environmental justice and develop strategies to achieve it in their community. In this conversation, they discuss the importance of communicating in ways that speak to all peoples’ values and experiences — and how their budding partnership can benefit everyone involved.